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		<title>By: Swing Trading</title>
		<link>http://ktownlowdown.com/this-weeks-gem/comment-page-1/#comment-1269</link>
		<dc:creator>Swing Trading</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 07:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good read. I have made a twitter post about this. Hope others find it as interesting as I did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good read. I have made a twitter post about this. Hope others find it as interesting as I did.</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
		<link>http://ktownlowdown.com/this-weeks-gem/comment-page-1/#comment-919</link>
		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Matt! Wow, I don’t know quite where to start in response to what you have said. There&#039;s so much to say. I think this debate goes much deeper than Obama and McCain. And it goes even deeper than Republicans and Democrats and their experience. I&#039;ll be honest, I have no polls (which are crap, anyway) or research to prove my point about Obama supporters vs. McCain supporters. I&#039;m fully aware that both sides have supporters that are ignorant as to why they are voting. My &quot;theory&quot; about Obama supporters is based on the many, many interviews I&#039;ve heard on television and the discussions I&#039;ve had with family members and friends who support Obama. I get a general &quot;vibe&quot; that they don&#039;t really know what he stands for...they just like him because he&#039;s different than Bush. Again, this is just my opinion, but I think that reason is foolish. If there are those (you, maybe) who actually do know what they believe about government and who know what Obama stands for, then enlighten me...Without considering specific people (Obama, McCain, etc…), share a short summary of what you think the main functions of government should be in a perfect world? More specifically, what roles should the government/the President play, according to the Constitution? Then, tell me about your support for Obama…based on what you know about him (not what he’s SAID he will do, but what he’s actually DONE), what would his answers to the above questions be? I&#039;m also posting these questions on my blog (www.crazylifeofkate.com) if you want to join that conversation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Matt! Wow, I don’t know quite where to start in response to what you have said. There&#8217;s so much to say. I think this debate goes much deeper than Obama and McCain. And it goes even deeper than Republicans and Democrats and their experience. I&#8217;ll be honest, I have no polls (which are crap, anyway) or research to prove my point about Obama supporters vs. McCain supporters. I&#8217;m fully aware that both sides have supporters that are ignorant as to why they are voting. My &#8220;theory&#8221; about Obama supporters is based on the many, many interviews I&#8217;ve heard on television and the discussions I&#8217;ve had with family members and friends who support Obama. I get a general &#8220;vibe&#8221; that they don&#8217;t really know what he stands for&#8230;they just like him because he&#8217;s different than Bush. Again, this is just my opinion, but I think that reason is foolish. If there are those (you, maybe) who actually do know what they believe about government and who know what Obama stands for, then enlighten me&#8230;Without considering specific people (Obama, McCain, etc…), share a short summary of what you think the main functions of government should be in a perfect world? More specifically, what roles should the government/the President play, according to the Constitution? Then, tell me about your support for Obama…based on what you know about him (not what he’s SAID he will do, but what he’s actually DONE), what would his answers to the above questions be? I&#8217;m also posting these questions on my blog (www.crazylifeofkate.com) if you want to join that conversation.</p>
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		<title>By: tvd</title>
		<link>http://ktownlowdown.com/this-weeks-gem/comment-page-1/#comment-918</link>
		<dc:creator>tvd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hyperbole, my friend.... you know like saying Jesus was a community organizer and Pilate was a governor

The point was community organizing does not necessarily  speak to a man&#039;s character.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hyperbole, my friend&#8230;. you know like saying Jesus was a community organizer and Pilate was a governor</p>
<p>The point was community organizing does not necessarily  speak to a man&#8217;s character.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://ktownlowdown.com/this-weeks-gem/comment-page-1/#comment-917</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when you introduced Osama - you lost all credibility and my interest in engaging with you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when you introduced Osama &#8211; you lost all credibility and my interest in engaging with you</p>
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		<title>By: tvd</title>
		<link>http://ktownlowdown.com/this-weeks-gem/comment-page-1/#comment-916</link>
		<dc:creator>tvd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Matt,

Frankly, I don&#039;t know.  I don&#039;t assume it was because He is such a good person.  Maybe he couldn&#039;t handle corporate law, maybe he knew that working with his friend Mr. Ayers, in the long run had a better chance of getting him elected to a place in the State of Federal Senate?  I don&#039;t presume to know the answer to it.  I just don understand why corporate law firms are seen as evil or at least less of a service than community organization.  Not to mention, we don&#039;t know really what he did while working in South Chicago, Where are the records?  

Again,My point is that what Obama hasn&#039;t done,i.e join a big corporate law firm, doesn&#039;t seem to me like presidential qualifications.

Osama Bin Laden Is a rich man too, yet he does a lot of &quot;community organizing&quot;, does that speak to his character?

Now that&#039;s tongue in cheek of course. I am not comparing Obama and Osama, but being a &quot;community organizer&quot; doesn&#039;t directly relate to the character of a man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Matt,</p>
<p>Frankly, I don&#8217;t know.  I don&#8217;t assume it was because He is such a good person.  Maybe he couldn&#8217;t handle corporate law, maybe he knew that working with his friend Mr. Ayers, in the long run had a better chance of getting him elected to a place in the State of Federal Senate?  I don&#8217;t presume to know the answer to it.  I just don understand why corporate law firms are seen as evil or at least less of a service than community organization.  Not to mention, we don&#8217;t know really what he did while working in South Chicago, Where are the records?  </p>
<p>Again,My point is that what Obama hasn&#8217;t done,i.e join a big corporate law firm, doesn&#8217;t seem to me like presidential qualifications.</p>
<p>Osama Bin Laden Is a rich man too, yet he does a lot of &#8220;community organizing&#8221;, does that speak to his character?</p>
<p>Now that&#8217;s tongue in cheek of course. I am not comparing Obama and Osama, but being a &#8220;community organizer&#8221; doesn&#8217;t directly relate to the character of a man.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what reasons could there have been for taking the community organizing job since we&#039;re talking about projection?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what reasons could there have been for taking the community organizing job since we&#8217;re talking about projection?</p>
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		<title>By: tvd</title>
		<link>http://ktownlowdown.com/this-weeks-gem/comment-page-1/#comment-914</link>
		<dc:creator>tvd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And as Jo said, that experience speaks more to his character that he would choose that job rather than a higher paying corporate job.&quot;

This is the only candidate I have ever known, in my short voting life, that has  used jobs he didn&#039;t do as part of his experience.  We project upon the candidate that it was about his character that he took a community organizing job, but there could be several reasons he did it.  

And if we use that argument for his character then, why not now?  Would it not speak more to his character now to go back to being a community organizer than President of the United States.

If he did it once maybe will get lucky and he will do it again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And as Jo said, that experience speaks more to his character that he would choose that job rather than a higher paying corporate job.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is the only candidate I have ever known, in my short voting life, that has  used jobs he didn&#8217;t do as part of his experience.  We project upon the candidate that it was about his character that he took a community organizing job, but there could be several reasons he did it.  </p>
<p>And if we use that argument for his character then, why not now?  Would it not speak more to his character now to go back to being a community organizer than President of the United States.</p>
<p>If he did it once maybe will get lucky and he will do it again.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://ktownlowdown.com/this-weeks-gem/comment-page-1/#comment-913</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadcox - he spent 7 years as a state senator in IL and he is currently a US Senator.  He taught Con Law at the University of Chicago and he graduated Magna Cum Laude from Harvard Law School and was the first African American editor of the Law Review.  He has one or two more things on his resume than organizing.  And as Jo said, that experience speaks more to his character that he would choose that job rather than a higher paying corporate job.  It was also a moving experience for him personally, I think, which is why he brings it up.  He probably wouldn&#039;t be in politics today without that experience.  If Sarah Palin hadn&#039;t been involved the the community organization called the PTA she probably wouldn&#039;t be either.

Katie, I&#039;m curious, did you do a poll of Obama supporters to come to your conclusions.  What was your methodology? How did you compare the knowledge base of Obama supporters vs McCain supporters?  Do you remember that two weeks ago John McCain&#039;s entire campaign was based on the fact that Barack Obama is too inexperienced to be president and now it is based on the idea that McCain/Palin is the ticket for change?  We have never been at war with Eurasia, we have always been at war with Eastasia

As you your other points about our economy -I don&#039;t know anyone who has said we are in a depression.  Several people have said that we are in the beginnings of a possible recession and that&#039;s a different thing.  As far as your point about cell phones and eating out - well I&#039;m flummoxed by that comment.  Lots of people do eat out and buy cell phones, but 37.5 million people in this country live below the poverty line and 18% of all children are below that level as well. And let&#039;s be frank.  The poverty line is a JOKE.  A family of 5 in this country that makes more than 25000 dollars a year is not in poverty by the US census bureau standards.  That is simply insane.  Rachel and I have one child, and we live in a modest apartment in LA and we pay over 16,000 dollars in year in RENT.  How can that line possibly be accurate?.  There is great economic disparity (and despair) in this country and it must be addressed.

To your other point about the yelling - well ask yourself which convention contained more nastiness and ugliness?  R or D?  Which campaign has been based almost solely on lies told about their opponents?  That&#039;s a clear answer.  There was a media firestorm about Sarah Palin&#039;s daughter&#039;s pregnancy until someone asked Barack Obama about it and he responded that he was born to an eighteen year old mother and he understood that things simply turn out that way sometimes.  He then said that families should be off limits and that reporters should back off and stop writing about Palin&#039;s family.  (he has said similar things about her religion in recent days).  How did Palin respond?  By giving one of the most mean spirited and ungracious speeches I have ever heard - including mocking Obama, by name in personal terms.  The noise is coming from one side.

As for having never met a Barack Obama supporter who doesn&#039;t know what his views are - hi my name&#039;s Matt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadcox &#8211; he spent 7 years as a state senator in IL and he is currently a US Senator.  He taught Con Law at the University of Chicago and he graduated Magna Cum Laude from Harvard Law School and was the first African American editor of the Law Review.  He has one or two more things on his resume than organizing.  And as Jo said, that experience speaks more to his character that he would choose that job rather than a higher paying corporate job.  It was also a moving experience for him personally, I think, which is why he brings it up.  He probably wouldn&#8217;t be in politics today without that experience.  If Sarah Palin hadn&#8217;t been involved the the community organization called the PTA she probably wouldn&#8217;t be either.</p>
<p>Katie, I&#8217;m curious, did you do a poll of Obama supporters to come to your conclusions.  What was your methodology? How did you compare the knowledge base of Obama supporters vs McCain supporters?  Do you remember that two weeks ago John McCain&#8217;s entire campaign was based on the fact that Barack Obama is too inexperienced to be president and now it is based on the idea that McCain/Palin is the ticket for change?  We have never been at war with Eurasia, we have always been at war with Eastasia</p>
<p>As you your other points about our economy -I don&#8217;t know anyone who has said we are in a depression.  Several people have said that we are in the beginnings of a possible recession and that&#8217;s a different thing.  As far as your point about cell phones and eating out &#8211; well I&#8217;m flummoxed by that comment.  Lots of people do eat out and buy cell phones, but 37.5 million people in this country live below the poverty line and 18% of all children are below that level as well. And let&#8217;s be frank.  The poverty line is a JOKE.  A family of 5 in this country that makes more than 25000 dollars a year is not in poverty by the US census bureau standards.  That is simply insane.  Rachel and I have one child, and we live in a modest apartment in LA and we pay over 16,000 dollars in year in RENT.  How can that line possibly be accurate?.  There is great economic disparity (and despair) in this country and it must be addressed.</p>
<p>To your other point about the yelling &#8211; well ask yourself which convention contained more nastiness and ugliness?  R or D?  Which campaign has been based almost solely on lies told about their opponents?  That&#8217;s a clear answer.  There was a media firestorm about Sarah Palin&#8217;s daughter&#8217;s pregnancy until someone asked Barack Obama about it and he responded that he was born to an eighteen year old mother and he understood that things simply turn out that way sometimes.  He then said that families should be off limits and that reporters should back off and stop writing about Palin&#8217;s family.  (he has said similar things about her religion in recent days).  How did Palin respond?  By giving one of the most mean spirited and ungracious speeches I have ever heard &#8211; including mocking Obama, by name in personal terms.  The noise is coming from one side.</p>
<p>As for having never met a Barack Obama supporter who doesn&#8217;t know what his views are &#8211; hi my name&#8217;s Matt</p>
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